Talk:Athena Asamiya

Spillover Gallery

I guess...? Sake neko 20:56, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

The main page can handle many illustrations. Look at the Ryu page for reference. Allow me to add more artworks to the main page so that this wikia will be comparable to Capcom's. We don't have a spillover sprite gallery so we don't need a hidden one for illustrations. It's useful and fun to look at them and informative when the game and artist is displayed below it. Don't ruin the fun! Wikia should be fun for readers to read! :) BurnsBogard 01:54, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Haha, that's true! Well, I'll forgive it since it's Athena. :) Sake neko 05:52, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

I don't mind it for sprites since they're smaller than the gallery thumbnails and don't take up nearly as much space. There's also the matter the most of the time the character's appearance doesn't really change, just the art style. The reasoning that "Capcom does it!" doesn't really seem much of a reason to me really. But in this case I guess it's ok since she changes outfits every almost every appearance anyways. Kyosei 22:46, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

There is no reason why we need to have only 8 images in the gallery. This isn't wikipedia where we need to keep things short. No one is going to look for more pictures in the discussion page. I'm going to start adding many more than 8 images to the other character galleries as well, even if they wear the same outfit. If other wikias can handle more than 8 images than this one can as well. BurnsBogard 13:05, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

It's mostly to limit it from becoming larger than the article itself eventually. Similar to a block of text, a block of images is not that much better unless that's the purpose of the page. Such as Gallery of The King of Fighters '98 Endings. I think that's what eventually would need to happen with these character galleries if we added every game appearance. Kyosei 22:01, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

This Ryu article doesn't look bad even though there are a lot of images. http://capcomdatabase.wikia.com/wiki/Ryu . I think it's fine if it's at the very end of the article and do you think the average reader of the SNK wikia would mind if there were a lot of illustrations? I think they'd love looking at how the characters have evolved throughout the years. I'll comply with your wishes for now though and add more images to characters that are seriously lacking in them. Just think it over. Thanks! BurnsBogard 12:26, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Ryu's gallery is ok until you realize that it makes up for over half of his current article. I'd rather character articles to focus on the character itself in terms of information that people wouldn't necessary know (as a good portion of info we put up here is in Japanese only) rather than a "ooh look at the pretty pictures" gallery. It's easy to find a picture. There's other off-site websites that do the same thing and better than wikia anyways. Then there's also the matter of deciding what appearances to include in the gallery. If we were to include every outfit she's ever worn in every game, it'd be much bigger. There's at least, off of the top of my head, 20-30 we haven't included from mobile games alone. Limiting it to 8 keeps it from looking like we're favoring one character over another as well.

Besides as you notice with the character sprites we didn't actually add every single one from every game appearance either. Most of the them are just re-used over various games anyways. The only time a new sprite is really added is when it's either a) re-animated or b) a different sprite/appearance altogether. The gallery mostly reflected the same thing as well for appearances. Kyosei 18:57, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

This is an off-hand comment, but I recently read Ryu's page. Why don't they mention his original story from SFII? I've read it Japanese and it sounded pretty epic to put in. Plus, there's a lot of mistakes on his page in that they don't mention everything he's done in the series... Same with other SF characters like Ken and Cammy. Urgh, I want to fix it but I'm afraid most of the stuff will get rejected by Capcom fanboys. Reminds me of the mess over names and fights to keep individual character articles on wikipedia. Sake neko 08:59, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Athena's KOF XIII Sprite

I made a GIF for Athena's KOF XIII sprite some time ago, but didn't upload it for reasons I will now explain. While much controversy and interest has been devoted to the character sprites of Takuma and Hwa Jai, no one has mentioned the rather drastic and ugly change to Athena's KOF XIII sprite: namely, that her head now inflates and deflates like a big pink balloon. I understand the purpose behind this. There was quite an outrage, at least the in the West, about Athena's exaggerated physiognomy. The creators probably wanted to tweak her design to bring it closer to their earlier sprite sketches where Athena had a much slimmer head. The problem is, they did this in such a shoddy, lazy manner that it makes her look worse than the previous game, a feat I thought almost impossible.

Knowing that the game is still in development, I thought it best to wait until the game was released before I uploaded this sprite so the creator's might have time to fix this rather garish fault. Unfortunately, I can't keep others from doing the same. Therefore, I've uploaded a properly timed and synchronized version to reflect the current state of progress. I don't know how anyone else feels about this matter, but I think the new modified sprite looks like shit, and that's something I wouldn't say about any other KOF XIII sprite yet released. D3volv3r 08:24, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

It's fine to think whatever you like and criticize SNK and their art style but please keep your language to a minimum (oh noes four letter curse words) if you can. A wide variety of people of different ages come here and I'd rather not have someone coming to complain to me about it later on down the road. While personally it doesn't offend me, I know other people might not think the same. I know you only did it once from the above but still I'd like to keep it pg friendly if you get my drift. Kyosei 18:15, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

Honestly, if you never would have mentioned this, I never would have noticed Athena's head. That edit of hers doesn't bother me at all (mostly because I never noticed it in the first place), and I rather like her XII/XIII sprite. It's quite adorable. :P What sprite DOES look horrible is that anorexic Joe. XD

By the way, shouldn't her new artwork be uploaded as well to reflect her color change..? AquiferT 02:17, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

Is that true??

I have read from some sources Athena is in love with Kyo, and that is supposed they attended to the same High-School. Is that right? Well, it really doesn't affect the storyline, but I'm curious about.. Is that truth or not? Magegg 01:57, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

This is stuff that mostly comes from the KOF: Kyo manga and by extension the game of the same name. So it's not really canon though the drama CDs like to play around with the idea too. Kyosei 02:10, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

I'm wondering if I should omit the Athena "having feelings for Kyo" part of her personality. This is never outwardly stated and is more situated as gag material for Yuki to misunderstand. Saltamiya (talk) 01:00, April 23, 2018 (UTC)

It’s more a case of for early products. But yeah it’s stated in early works and side material that she does. It’s more a case of it hasn’t new mentioned lately. I think the page is fine with it though.--FFMaverick01 (talk) 01:46, April 23, 2018 (UTC)

Page 17 shows Yuki's misunderstanding and page 30 shows the clarification. I don't see where it's mentioned outright, can you show me? Saltamiya (talk) 01:57, April 23, 2018 (UTC)

If I remember right it’implird not outright stated like in the game. Though it’s been years sense I read the manga.--FFMaverick01 (talk) 02:32, April 23, 2018 (UTC)

Then it seems fair to remove that it's in different source material, including the manga, because I sourced the manga. If it's implied, it's up to interpretation and not a concrete fact so I hope that clarifies the article. Saltamiya (talk) 02:51, April 23, 2018 (UTC)

Why rename the page?

So why was the page suddenly renamed to "Athena (King of Fighters)"? Joe Musashi (talk) 13:17, August 10, 2015 (UTC)

Probably because the character Athena Asamiya is different from Athena Princess/Goddess. Kein Sylvan (talk) 19:28, November 13, 2015 (UTC)Kein Sylvan 

Athena's Powers and Relation to Goddess

On the English inlay for Psycho Soldier, Athena (the goddess) has changed and gone to a new world.  This review and this review state that it is the Goddess Athena that's "whisked through time and space".

I'm not sure about the Japanese translations, but in English, Athena Asamiya is marketed as Goddess Athena instead of inheiriting powers or being a descendent. How should I reword the article?

Saltamiya (talk) 01:14, April 23, 2018 (UTC)