Talk:Athena Asamiya/Quotes

Probably done updating this page, at least for now. Some notes:

- There were two Japanese phrases I couldn't translate: Win Vs Kensou 2001 and the second part of Taunt 2003/XI. I think that one's something like "Isaitame nan desu?", but I'm not sure. I also couldn't find a source for " Mada owatte nai!" in XIV, so it's gone for now.

- I left off phrases used during special moves because there weren't many when I started, probably because most of them are in English. I took out the few that were up for consistency's sake. We could add them back in, but wouldn't we have to add all the other ones too?

- Sorry if Collapse code isn't cool around here. I haven't been to many Wikias, so I don't know what's what. The code doesn't work on Mobile, and even shows a (very small) graphic glitch, so feel free to edit it out. The whole page could use some cleanup for Mobile, actually.

- I went into this logging even more quotes - cutscenes and endings, stuff from side games like KOF Skystage, etc. Then I realized that no other characters have those things, so I left them out. I'll add them if there's demand, but I'm not logging all that for any other characters.

RitzierHades63  ( talk ) 08:50, November 14, 2017 (UTC)

KOF Sky Stage Problem
So, here's the thing about KOF Skystage: It has a LOT of dialogue. Like, probably more than KOF13. What I've added is the ten pre-battle dialogues for a solo runthrough with Athena and the five dialogues everyone else has when they fight Athena by themselves. The thing is, this game can be played with two players...and for every possible combination, there's a whole new set of dialogue. Since Athena can pair with five people, that is fifty more pre-battle dialogues for all the Athena + partner runs, plus another ten for fighting Athena with every other possible teamup.

I am willing to log every last one of these (it may take a while), but I don't like any other character enough to do it for them. So if I do that, this page will be at least twice as big as any other Quotes page, even Kyo's or Iori's. Plus the section will become a massive wall of text, and the one we have to deal with for KOF13 is bad enough.

I think the best thing to do is keep what we have, which is solo runs only. If we do add them all, I think the whole Skystage section should go under collapse code, like the Rising Star Games translations are. (We could put the KOF13 section under collapse code too, while we're at it.) Another option would be to put in all of Athena's dialogues, but get rid of the ones where she's the CPU opponent. That'll only help a little bit, though.

I took out the Neo Geo Battle Coliseum for pretty much the same reason. You can't play it two player, but there are at least fifteen pre-battle dialogues for each character, and since Athena can be fought here too that's another ten dialogues for going against her. Again, I can get these, but it'd make the page even bigger and the text even longer.

Anyone have any ideas about this? Let me know if there's a better option I'm not seeing. If nobody responds, I'll leave it the way it is.

RitzierHades63 (talk) 07:46, April 5, 2018 (UTC)

SNK Heroines: Tag Team Frenzy Problem
Say what you will about this game, but one thing's for certain: the English translation is terrible. The writing's a thousand times better than in the old days, of course, but the translators took just as many liberties, if not more. A simple example is one of Athena's winquotes against Yuri. It's written as "I'm a master of Kyokugenryu! Teehee...Just kidding!", but the voiceover dialogue is "Chou yoyutchi! Teehee...gomenasai!", which is one of Yuri's other catchphrases ("Super easy!") and one of the first things you learn in Japanese class ("I'm sorry"). The spirit is the same, but it is in no way literal, and it has no reason not to be. Other examples are more extreme--Zarina's intro with Terry barely even makes sense--so I'm sure there's plenty of other errors in these quotes.

I'd love to see someone who's fluent in Japanese take on this game and find out just how screwed up it really is. (I'd do it myself, but I am in no way fluent.) If you decide to, please add in proper translations for any other winquotes with errors, or at least with major ones. If you don't want to deal with formatting, just stick 'em in there somewhere and I can handle it later :) RitzierHades63 (talk) 18:33, September 23, 2018 (UTC)