Talk:Palenke Stone and Tangiers Stone

Tangiers or Tangil
Which is correct way to spell/write it? Most of time I saw it as Tangil, and sometimes Tangiru. I saw it as "Tangiers" here for first time, so I ask. Also, what means "four heroic souls who walk the land as "demons"". I mean use of term "demons", doesnt it look strange?
 * I just used the English official site's spelling for them. "Tangiru" and "Tangil" are closer to the romanization so they're okay too. The heroic demons bit is a literal translation from the mook I got it from. It basically means they act like Zankuro in battle, even if they're "good guys". Their claims for swordplay/country borderline being inhumane with their lust for battle. They're wild in fights and aren't afraid to kill for their goals. Stuff like that. Sake neko 17:23, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah you meant slang "Oni" term use, which in reference to common people means such ones, posessing great strength and skill, and living for battle. Then probably in original they were called "Oni". Usually I leave this word untranslated, but best translation I saw is "inner demon", but thats again dropping other meaning, which refers to mythological horned Oni creatures

Black Shroud 17:32, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Yup, you got it. I think leaving the word untranslated confuses more people (since they'll usually think ogres instead) so I was lazy and used demon. :) Sake neko 20:34, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
 * That was one of the reasons I decided to make a dictionary of terms for my site, which will eventually house SS character profiles. If I mention Oni there it will be clickable and then after clicking you are transported to one of dictionary pages and there are remarks and info about Oni. The whole system will be autonomous and controlled by one man basically (me) so info will be controllable and I will know which is where, instead of linking for terms to normal wikipedia which undergones awful cleanups each time.
 * That's nice. Sake neko 21:29, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Another Amakusa's gem: Gadamar
As I recall, while Amakusa uses Palenke Stone in first game, later his weapon, albeit looking same, is called Gadamar. Supposedly Palenke Stone was taken from him after his defeat, but then what exactly is Gadamar, and also why there are two Gadamars (green and violet) which are used by normal and Dark Amakusa? (in Samurai Shodown 6 Amakusa also switches between those balls as he changes between Shura/Long Ranged and Rasetsu/Short Ranged modes.)Black Shroud 07:26, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Those questions were never really answered fully by developers. The best that they said about it was that it was that it was Amakusa's trademark weapon roughly borrowing power from it. As for why both halves have it, I wouldn't know what to say to that. Sake neko 07:49, 24 January 2009 (UTC)