Talk:Demon Gaoh

Shin Gaoh isnt a right name! Article must be renamed "Demon Gaoh"
This character is called MaGaoh, meaning Demon Gaoh. (MaGaoh in Japan, Demon Gaoh in US.) It is written 魔我旺, first kanji "Ma" means "Demon" Examples of using 魔我旺 by japanese: http://tieba.baidu.com/f?kz=411801224 http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm3182387

MaGaoh is basically a demonic version of Gaoh, presumably after he was slain. He is located in Makai (Demon World), which is also doubles as his arena. He is shown there overthrowing some native demons, so to speak. Instead of using Do-Shin-Zan-Ten-Rei-Ken spirits as usual characters, he uses Ma (Demon) spirit system, which enables him to gain Rage Energy not only from taking damage, but also from dealing damage. As Gaoh is based on Oda Nobunaga, MaGaoh is based on popular idea of demonic version of Nobunaga. As much as Nobunaga already was called "Dai Rokudan Maoh" (Sixth Great Demon King) and sided with demons in popular folklore, there was an another layer, such as when he was killed he would come back to life with help of fellow demons, resurrected in more demonic form as demon lord of sorts (Storyline of Onimusha series uses such version of Nobunaga as main antagonist through several games). MaGaoh also has changed appearance, such as dark skin and cross on forehead. Such cross/mark on forehead is used as sign of renounciation of himself as human, due to making pact with demons or due to some curse etc. Examples in nowadays media include such "marking" as well, like several characters found in Naruto, or Hyakkimaru's father in Dororo.

What I can say about Shin Gaoh, its not an own name of character for obvious reasons, that Shin or True version of boss is common word in both japanese and english languages to name powered-up version of video game boss you must fight after beating a weaker version of him. Many games use this practice to have a buffed/demonic/enhanced etc version of boss, like CyberAkuma for example, and if you would have a game where you fight CyberAkuma after normal Akuma, you would most likely refer to him as to Shin Akuma, and hopefully you will be understanded by people who know about Shin/True term in regard of bosses; but this pretty much sums everything up, and no need to use Shin Gaoh as article name or character name here I guess, because we already have millions of Shin versions of game bosses. And 真我旺 isnt ever used on the net as far as I know. Peace. Black Shroud 11:01, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * All right so if it's not right then change it. Use the green bar near the top of the page and click on the "Move" option. When it asks you for a new title, write in the newer and correct title with some reasoning. BTW, it's pretty obvious to me that Gaoh looks like/basically is Nobunaga but are there any interviews that say that? I just want to separate the gamer jargon from whatever the creators say. Sake neko 16:32, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that. I just found his official name and it's neither "Shin" or "Maoh". It's "Makai wo Suberubeshi Gaoh" (魔界を統べし我旺). A literal translation would probably be "Gaoh that supervises the demon world" and more brief one would be "Gaoh, Watcher of Makai" or something along those lines. I guess the closest to the original name would be "Maoh" but then we'd have to included the original name as well and give reasonings as to why it's not the original. Sake neko 23:13, 10 July 2008 (UTC)