User talk:Kyosei

Past discussions archived to...
 * Archive 1 Archived 01:44, December 18, 2009 (UTC)
 * Archive 2 Archived 08:49, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

Change <3
I had a change of heart, you're right about the whole Smoke thing and I made alot of changes and I'll do whatever I can to make it right. :) 2:19 ThunderBeam707 June 1, 2010 (UTC)

!!!!!

Thanks I really appreciate it. 4:12 ThunderBeam707 June 2, 2010 (UTC)

It there a possibly that Smoke trains in volcanoes, cause that what I put in his profile. 4:19 ThunderBeam707 June 2, 2010 (UTC)

Rugal's Status
I doubt that Rugal will return, so far he only appeared in Dream Matches, so I don't think he'll be back in the story lines. 8:43 ThunderBeam707 June 5, 2010 (UTC)

Concerning 201.19.96.68
I appreciate that you reverted those vandalized sprite sections. Though we have disagreed about their placement and arrangement, I am thankful that you value those sprites. Since reverting this vandalism has become something of a chore, I want to suggest that 201.19.96.68 be blocked from editing this wiki. I wouldn't recommend this if it were a mere difference of opinion, but from his pattern of behavior, of being warned about vandalism and repeating unabated, having contributed nothing but deletions, it seems he is but a childish nuisance. It would be best if his deletions were stopped rather than endlessly reverted. Cheers. D3volv3r 20:06, June 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * Looks as though our deleting fiend has discovered proxies. D3volv3r 05:43, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

Advice
Hey I'm in a struggle here can you please look here and give me some advice to make it more believable, cause I'm really having a hard time with this project. 4:39 ThunderBeam707 June 19, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah I see what you mean, but I got rid of the eyesight and smoking thing, but I'm still not sure If I should change his powers or not. Now don't think he's more powerful than three the sarced treasures, because he can still go and I decided to change the entire background and but I'm not trying to make a bigger powerhouse than the other character that'll only make them look bad, so far I'm still gonna work on his background, anyway thanks for the advice. ^^ 6:19 ThunderBeam707 June 19, 2010 (UTC)

Kim's Team Name for KOF XIII
Hey Kyosei should I change Kim team to Kim's Fatal Fury Team (since Kim, Hwa Jai, and Raiden are all from the Fatal Fury series) or should leave it the way it is? 8:00 ThunderBeam707 June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Ok.10:07ThunderBeam707 June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Link
What kind of link are you talking about? 4:17 ThunderBeam707 June 24, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, but I only notice the your theory on my Home Page, so I just want to know what's up. 5:34 ThunderBeam707 June 24, 2010 (UTC)

Falcoon fanart
Whatever, man. 7:34 ThunderBeam707 June 27, 2010 (UTC)

Help
Hey sorry to bother you, but I need some help I'm trying to find a japanese name for my new character here and since you're a perfectionist and all can you please help me with this little problem?

2. How did you Archive comments, cause I want to get rid of my past comments. 6:30 ThunderBeam707 June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks a bunch. 6:57 ThunderBeam707 June 29, 2010 (UTC)

68.3.241.177
I've had enough with this childish user I've warned him more then twice about his immaturity and he's twisting my words around, calling me stupid names, and he refuses to stop I think 68.3.241.177 should be blocked from this site completely before he does something else childish. 12:45 ThunderBeam707 June 30, 2010 (UTC)

Alright then, I'll take you're word for it. 1:12 ThunderBeam707 June 30, 2010 (UTC)

Did he just edited more foul language or did he do something worst then that? 2:11 ThunderBeam707 June 31, 2010 (UTC)

I knew it, he twisted my words again, block him now. 2:15 ThunderBeam707 June 31, 2010 (UTC)

If you want to block, you've got to hold back on the d-pad.

I don't understand I've got a message from someone but I don't know who send me that message. 1:51 ThunderBeam707 July 2, 2010 (UTC)

Komori Family Crest symbol
I have a question, and just a slight opinion, I trying to find the right symbol for the Komori clan, since their crest is the comet and I'm wondering should I use this one or this one? 4:15 ThunderBeam707 June 30, 2010 (UTC)

The second one it is then, thanx for the help. ^^ 4:51 ThunderBeam707 June 30, 2010 (UTC)

already taken care of. 2:19 ThunderBeam707 July 2, 2010 (UTC)

Smoke's Improvement
Phew, ok, ok, it took 25 hours to get this right, I to had change some of the back stories to make it look right, But I might need an official nickname for him. 6:01 ThunderBeam707 July 2, 2010 (UTC)

Ignored huh? All I ask is for a little help and advice. -_- 12:00 ThunderBeam707 July 3, 2010 (UTC)

Well sorry mr. I'm-so-hot-and-I'm-not-in-the-mood-for-everything, All I wanted was a official nickname for my character, plus it's not the end of the world because of the heat, and there's no need to be a sour-puss ;P, in fact you kinda sound like a guy I know from a certain series and let's not forget that your an admin and it's your duty to help with anything and I'm not talking about my fan work and all, but the whole editing.

I'm getting used to the edits but you may never know I might need help with some stuff that's new to me, I understand that you're a human being and not a machine but all I ask is for a little help it's that so hard? And you may need to tone down you're attitude a bit, to me it's just getting old. ;P 5:32 ThunderBeam707 July 3, 2010 (UTC)

Since when you were nice and considerate, this doesn't help me at all, and you don't seem to be nice nor considerate at all, complaining about how you're annoyed and constantly giving me the cold shoulder, to me and I'll say it again, I don't think you're nice nor codsiderate at all. ThunderBeam707 July 3, 2010 (UTC)

All The World's A Stage
My latest and possibly last contribution is a rightly ambitious one. I have amassed a considerable number of animated backgrounds spanning a host of SNK fighting games. Before I uploaded them, I thought it best to explain my method and seek your advice.

Each video game article will display its respective content. A gallery of stages will appear after the list of characters at the bottom. A small subtitle describing the stage name or character affiliation will accompany each thumbnail. Though a few games feature many stages, I don't believe this will make separate gallery pages desirable since most articles are already quite brief.

While on the subject, I would like to amend my previous position on gallery pages. I have come to recognize their utility if only for decluttering small galleries of dubious or redundant images. Aye, but there's the rub. Having two distinct sections both called galleries is confusing. Those image sections on the bottom of character pages could be better labeled as "Images." That way, when a user sees a link for so and so's Gallery it's more distinct. Having a link to a supplement gallery right above a section called "Gallery" seems more redundant than informative. Perhaps you have your own ideas for making the links to gallery pages more evident.

Returning to the subject of stages, I would like to file the images under the categories Images and Stages. I know that I must specify the category "Stages" when I upload the images, but I don't know if that's all. Will the category "Stages" exist within the category "Images" such as "Sprites" and "Cards"?

Lastly, I hope you will assist me in a related matter that is beyond my means, though hopefully not yours. Because Samurai Shodown V was never fully translated, I cannot give the stages their proper name as indicated on the map screen. If you could translate the locations and match them to their respective stages, I can properly name all the files for this game.

Thanks in advance for any time or assistance you can offer.

Cheers D3volv3r 09:11, July 18, 2010 (UTC)

DOOD
why did you get rid of the lies on tonys page the truth is boring

Re:Shermie
Don't care it's still a metaphor no matter what you say and their true status relies more on the Sacred Treasures Team more than their story. 4:13 ThunderBeam707 July 21, 2010 (UTC)

Okay then I'll say this their ending's not important and even if they sacrifice themselves and Orochi is to live again, then the Orochi saga would never end and like I said, I don't care. 5:11 ThunderBeam707 July 21, 2010 (UTC)

hi!!!! kyosei san!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
kyosei,ash is creation of falcoon,right???
 * Really???

Gaidel is a decendant of the yasakani??
 * Thank s,

Idiocy? :P
Hi there Kyosei.^^

I heard you're keeping this page up during the original watcher's absence, is this correct?

Just wanted to introduce, since I just signed up. Before that, I added Ash's movelist for KOF MI Regulation A as unregistered user.

Well, wish you luck here with whatever you're doing now.:P

(Mirror Wave 15:52, August 15, 2010 (UTC))

Two questions.
Previously the voice actor of Ash is said to be Sonosuke Nagashiro(in Kof 2003~XI) and another person(in KOF XIII,who I don't remember the name) this "another person" also makes the voice from Saiki and evil/dark Ash,but now only Sonosuke is said to be the voice actor of Ash,Saiki and Evil Ash,this is correct? or is some error?

My second "question" is actualy a guess: I think that The old senior in Kof 2003 ending is actualy Saiki disguised, because he is the only person who doesn't appear(have the face revealed)

Sorry
Sorry for my two previous mistakes,and no no,I was not complaining about the fact of Ash voice actor,I was just wanting to make sure,and about the Saiki-old senior connection,I think only SNK can sure confirm that,or maybe this becomes something unclear.CopySigmaII 19:26, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

kof 94 trivia
Before removing it, you should confirm first if it is true or not. If you wish I can show you the yuyu hakusho's scenes where the sound is heard.
 * There's nothing special about this scream because it's just a stock sound effect used pretty much every where. Think of it as something similar to the Wilhelm scream that Hollywood likes to use in movies over and over again. Kyosei 02:24, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

Age
I have a question who is the oldest in male and female fighter and youngest in male and female fighters? --Cococrash11 02:43, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Okay I meant in King of Fighters. --Cococrash11 07:20, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Voltage Fighter Gowcaizer anime
We need to carry on with our discussion about the uncensored nudity in the Voltage Fighter Gowcaizer anime. It has been inactive for a long time. 70.118.57.13 18:20, September 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * Why? It's gotten to the point where you repeat the same exact fundamentalist arguments based upon circular logic and clearly don't know what actually defines a work as hentai, porn or +18. You place your own personal world view criteria on what this rating means rather than what it actually means and can't seem to move beyond that point. You also make blatant assumptions about nudity even though I've linked to you via the Wikipedia article studies that say otherwise by peer-reviewed research but you still repeat the same falsehoods. Honestly, because of this and other logical fallacies your responses tend be predictable and thus monotonous which is going to kill any kind of interest on my end and why I stopped responding. It's like a broken record that keeps skipping and won't continue onto the next part. This was the same exact problem you had with the character nationalities "debate" and why I also stopped bothering to respond eventually there too. =/ Kyosei 19:46, September 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * Also on a side note, don't erase the imperial height and weight conversions. Not every country in the world uses the metric system which is why it is there in the first place. Kyosei 19:54, September 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * Do the Ninja Master's characters' infoboxes show their birthplaces just like with KOF characters? You're the who's making his own personal world view criteria about (uncensored) nudity. I would like to use the original translations of the Voltage Fighter Gowcaizer and ADK characters' infoboxes and backstories for Wikia Gaming, please. The debate about uncensored nudity outside of hentai anime and manga has not yet been dealt with. The VFG and ADK characters' infoboxes and backstories may be best suitable for Wikia Gaming. 70.118.57.13 19:43, September 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ninja Master's birthplace references are based on their character backstories and are not listed in official infoboxes. You don't have to ask to use the translations, just credit where you copied and pasted it from via some sort of note on the page as is stated by Wikia. The problem with your "debate" is that you're not trying to discuss anything. You're preaching. "This is wrong because I say it's wrong." This is not a valid argument. At best it's your personal opinion. Until you can move beyond that point, I feel it's meaningless for me to keep beating on a dead horse. Kyosei 23:39, September 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * OK. Let's say a 12-year-old boy goes with his parents to rent a Voltage Fighter Gowcaizer DVD at Blockbuster. The father looks at the back of the DVD box to find out whether or not the anime has an age rating on it. The father finds out that this anime is unrated and decides to take it home to see if he and the mother will let their son watch this movie. The father and mother watch the movie privately in their room without sound to see if it is okay for their son to watch the anime. The parents see uncensored nudity in the movie once, and decide to not let their son watch the movie at all and return it to Blockbuster. The father informs his son that this anime contains uncensored nudity which may not be suitable for viewers under age 18. He tells his son that he must be 18 or older to watch this anime. The reason the parents forbid their son to watch this movie is because they are suffering from culture shock and assume that any anime that contains just one bit of uncensored nudity is rated +18.
 * I also found the promotional trailer for the game on this page. It contains uncensored nudity just like the anime. 70.118.57.13 23:11, September 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't see how this is relevant to the discussion. Only peer-reviewed evidence or irrefutable, objective fact and logic does. Anecdotal evidence has no bearing in a debate. It's the same as making the statement: "You should exercise because it's good for you." It's a statement taken for granted as true but alone does really not mean anything until supported by evidence. While you may think and feel your example is more fact than fiction your example is still subjective at best. You are making blatant presumptions with this story as it makes huge assumptions that every parent was raised to share the same views about nudity that you do and that every family is a carbon copy version of your personal views. You're assuming the company did not specifically label the DVD with warnings about the nudity. You assume they would automatically consider 18 to be the age suitable for their child to see nudity. You assume that this child will take their parents' word as fact and morally right. Your example also makes the assumption that every family would have both a mother and father ;p There's more logical holes I can point out but I think you can see what I'm trying to get at here. Circular logic at work here once again. Got anything else to say? I'm also not sure why you bothered to link the trailer to me. Kyosei 01:22, September 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nudity is okay only as long as female nipples, genitalia, and penises are left unexposed. This is considered censorship. The burden of proof (like the one you mentioned in our discussion about Brider) must lie with me because I am not really sure if the Virtua Fighter anime really exposed Kagemaru's penis. If you show (a picture containing) proof of this, then I can respect this claim. Also, the Night Warriors Darkstalkers anime did not show Morrigan's nipples. Not one bit. 70.118.57.13 20:59, September 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay...? Now I'm not even sure what you're trying to argue. At first it seemed to be: "Anything that shows any uncensored nudity is porn/hentai/18+! Showing uncensored nudity to under 18 minors is harmful and will deeply scar children's lives forever! It's a sin! Here's a story that agrees exactly with my position as to why this is terrible." to "You must show me proof of this nudity (by my particular definition) in this particular anime! It's not really porn because there's no uncensored nudity and does not need a 18+ rating!" Which is kind of proving your original position wrong... I'm not even sure what's the point of this anymore really. For me really nudity equates to people not wearing any clothing. It doesn't matter how detailed it is or not. If they're not wearing any clothing they're naked. Zomg I know it sounds unreasonable. Even so this isn't even real people we're talking about here. It's lines on the screen that resemble people. I'm not even sure why this distinction is important. How is it relevant to the original argument? =Shrug= Kyosei 01:30, September 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * The discussion about uncensored nudity outside of hentai anime is not relevant to the original argument with Brider. You're the one who's wrong about uncensored nudity. I know it better than you do. I never watched the Virtua Fighter anime. Because of this, I'm not sure if it really contained uncensored nudity. The original argument with Brider is done. Oh, and at the very end of the first part of the second stage in Burning Fight (where you fight a boss named Tom Anderson), you can see a nude mermaid statue with the nipples completely exposed. This confuses me just as much as uncensored nudity outside of hentai anime. I don't think nudity was intentionally uncensored in Street Fighter II: The Animated Movie and Tekken: The Motion Picture at all. 70.118.57.13 18:12, September 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Er...where did I mention in the previous response right above yours anything about Brider? The last time I mentioned Brider was near the beginning of the thread and that was only to compare the circular logic you used then to then one you're using now. I have not mentioned it since. The only one mentioning that right now is you. At most Virtua Fighter shows is a naked butt. Even so, this still does not negate the already previous mentioned anime that did show genitalia (both Dragonball and Z) and exposed nipples (Macross Frontier, Ayashi no Ceres, the live action movie Avatar even, Magic Knight Rayearth, Fushigi Yuugi, and a lot more) from the last discussion that was not rated 18+. You've still not given me compelling evidence as to why these should be rated 18+. Your only "arguments" are: "I'm right and you don't know any better", "it's a sin" and "it'll scar the children." These are not valid claims as you still have not provided any evidence outside of your personal opinion as to why these above statements are true or justified. No studies. No statistics. No peer-reviewed research. Just a lot of avoiding the of the hard questions, red herrings and a bed time story. Kyosei 20:22, September 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * If all the Virtua Fighter anime shows is bare buttocks (both male and female), then it must not contain uncensored nudity. Dragon Ball and InuYasha are examples of non-hentai manga that showed female nipples once. James Cameron's Avatar did not even show female nipples. We shouldn't be talking about the nationalities of Ninja Master's and Voltage Fighter Gowcaizer characters since this case is already closed due to the characters' infoboxes not showing their birthplaces. What we should be talking about now is uncensored nudity outside of hentai anime and manga. You're the one who's making these baseless claims and arguments about uncensored nudity. And I'm telling you, the Voltage Fighter Gowcaizer anime is rated +18 for even the slightest amount of uncensored nudity. As for the promotional trailer for the game, I linked it to you to show proof that it contains uncensored nudity just like the anime, and the proof is in the scene with Shaia Hishizaki. Virus Buster Serge is an example of a non-hentai anime that showed bare breasts once. That completely confuses me just like any other non-hentai anime that has shown female nipples before. 70.118.57.13 21:18, September 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Once again. I'm confused as to why you are mentioning the nationalities "debate" and avoiding answering any real questions. Avatar does show female nipples of the movie's female protagonist more than once but the exposure is so brief and minute you probably didn't even notice it. From my understanding of your objections, any display, no matter how brief or trivial or singular, automatically labels the work as 18+. I don't see how I can make baseless claims about nudity when I've actually linked to you via the Wikipedia nudity article from the last thread, actual studies that say the opposite of your own claims. The proof you are supposed to provide isn't whether or not there is uncensored nudity in something not rated 18+. That is not the debate. It is supposed to be whether or not is truly harmful to minors under the age of 18 and thus warrant the rating from the start. This is why I can't even begin to debate with you. You're not even fulfilling steps required to have a proper one and resort to committing numerous logical fallacies. Until you can properly provide objective evidence to support your position, do not expect me to respond. It's just a waste of my time. Kyosei 22:59, September 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * No, Avatar did not even expose female nipples. I am completely sure of it unless you show me proof that it actually did. I don't think uncensored nudity doesn't even harm minors under age 18 at all. Instead, it normally offends them. You're still making a claim based on your own world view and making the assumption that everyone else agrees with it.
 * Plus, our discussion with Brider is mainly about how I can't read Japanese. Ninja Master's and Voltage Fighter Gowcaizer characters got the same treatment as Reina Takida from Days of Memories (their infoboxes do not mention their nationalities). Therefore, the assumption about nationalities by name has nothing to do with those characters. The most notable instances include Laurence Blood, Robert Garcia, Chris, Ramon, Bob Wilson, and Richard Meyer. The assumption about uncensored nudity in non-hentai anime is much less likely to be false than the one with birthplaces based on name. Examples of anime (and manga) that have shown female nipples once include Ikkitousen, Afro Samurai, Agent Aika, Urusei Yatsura, Dragon Ball, InuYasha, Golden Boy, Ranma 1/2, Shuffle!, Utawarerumono, Yatterman, Sekirei, Maburaho, JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, Lupin III, Black Lagoon, All Purpose Cat Girl Nuku Nuku, and Neorider Casshern. Uncensored nudity in Japan is just about as offensive as it is in the United States. I even ignored the link to the Wikipedia article on nudity you provided for me. 70.118.59.15 20:22, November 12, 2010 (UTC)

I'm back
excuse-me,but I'm back(again),yes, when kof XIII is released for PS3,most things will be more clear,(and I hope that in the console versions have more characters,well the console versions always have extra characters),and two details:1-the Orochi article says that those from the past(or Saiki at last) are creation of Gaia,if this is the case,that won´t have to be listed in the Saiki(or those from the past)articles too? 2-in kof neowave article Kusanagi is listed as boss,well I played the game dozens of times and never fought against him.

more two details:I can list(edit) Golba,as Boss?(in the Samurai Spirits,edge of destiny page),and I think the musics info must be more detailed,for example Iori team have the arashi no saxophone 2 music in kof 96 and 2002,but the musics differs in each game(they are kind remixed),I think that this must be more explained,example:arashi no saxophone.kof 96,and another version in kof 2002(or something like that)I can do edit most of the musics.and sorry if I bothered you.CopySigmaII 23:53, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Missing an admin
Hi. I typically edit the Shining Wiki, and I've been unable to contact the Wikia's founder and sole admin, Mr. Kraken. I've already found 10 articles on the Shining Wiki which need to be either merged or deleted, and in general it strikes me as a major problem for a Wiki to have not even one active admin. Since you've adopted the SNK Wiki after Mr. Kraken abandoned it, I thought you might be able to explain how we can get a new admin for the Shining Wiki as well. Any advice would be much appreciated. Thanks for your time.Martin III 22:56, September 30, 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks so much for the help! I was given admin and beaurecrat rights yesterday and was able to clean up the Wikia. Good to have an active admin on the Wikia again, even if it happens to me. Again, thanks.--Martin III 03:05, October 13, 2010 (UTC)

KOF XIII Section
Hi, I was actually wondering, why I can't edit on the King of Fighters XIII section?

I read the cosplay description and I notice that there are few missing, but like previously stated I can't edit in that section,could you please anwser me, thanks and sorry for botherin

Awesome Biographies
Im Really impressed by all of the king of fighters information

if u get more info about king of fighters plz update and leave a mesage to me im Aqeel33

ps these are fav. characters in kof

thank you

Character infoboxes
Hello, Kyosei! I would very much you look at the following site and alter the field "Most Unpleasant" because the original field is "Most Pleasing."

http://neogeo.freeplaytech.com/garou/index/garou_index.htm

Thanx

And also do not understand why you keep profiles to your liking. Terry's last appearance in its saga in the original was GMOTW, but you leave with the image of Crossover KOF.
 * Your translation seems misplaced, since Falcon mentioned the taste for cigarettes from Terry in the ACCEDE episode by KOF Another Day


 * Thanx
 * Your mistake, because in the episode Terry says clearly:


 * "I'm gonna smoke on the second floor"
 * Rock doesn't say he's smelling any smoke, but cigarettes.
 * Already the USA has been hijacked for translation because of censorship. Just collect the episode without translation into the USA.


 * This is a custom in the USA.
 * The birth year of Rock is easy to see by Terry's age in Garou: Mark Of The Wolves. The game's storyline takes place in 2006 and Rock is 17 years old, it is clear that he is from 1989


 * thanx
 * You also took my Trivia which referred to the map of Second Southtown.

If you compare the two translations, you will see they are totally different things and that in the original Japanese, says absolutely nothing about sleep.
 * Why?
 * I'm not translating anything for my desire. All material from SNK that comes to my country is translated by people directly connected to SNK and that is why I am stating with conviction.


 * As for the "Most Unpleasant" I took the actual text that you posted in Japanese and I put in a translator. In the same. "Good Things" instead of "Most Unpleasant."

If GMOTW takes place in 2006 and Rock has 17 years of age, so he was born in 1989. It's Maths!
 * Other:
 * If Terry has 35 years old in GMOTW, it says that the tournament takes place in 2006, because Terry was born in 1971.


 * I would like taking a curiosity: Are you the owner of this wiki SNK? Because if you do, nothing will move forward more I post my researches here.


 * Thanx!


 * Thanks for the replies!
 * As for my translator, Google is one. If you say he's wrong, well ... Who am I to say otherwise.


 * You have your way of seeing things, even with hard evidence of research.
 * It is your interpretation!
 * Thanx again!
 * See ya!

Last Question
Saiki is created by Gaia?,the Orochi article mentions that Saiki is another deity created by Gaia.CopySigmaII 21:42, December 12, 2010 (UTC)

Understood
Well I understood,and just one more detail,I see a video in you tube from a english ending from kof XIII,in this video is said that Saiki is ancestor of Ash(not another separated being) could  it be true?CopySigmaII 04:13, December 14, 2010 (UTC)

English changes
Yeah,I know,some games when translated in english,most things are changed,sometimes even the entire story.CopySigmaII 21:52, December 14, 2010 (UTC)