Talk:Gate

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It is not really implied that the 3 scared treasures were the ones needed for the time gate. The the pre-final boss scene, Botan said "You weren't after the artifacts then." signifying that Botan, and eventually the TFTP, were thinking Ash was after the artifacts. This also means that TFTP think Ash was the one who needs that artifacts, hence why would the use it if Ash needs it. The idea behind things might be that Ash and TFTP cooperated under mutual gains. Ash will get the artifact for himself as his benefit, and the Orochi seal will eventually weaken and the possibilities of him being re-sealed will be gone without the artifact, as the benefit for TFTP.

Also, SNKp didn't made clear as to why the gate closed. The only thing that gives clue is that two of the time spheres is eventually empty. Hope this will be clarified at the console version story mode.

I will keep on updating this page when new info comes.Coballes19 14:19, August 11, 2011 (UTC)


 * For what I remember the sequence where you off Saiki at the gate had Botan saying "why is the door closing? -Impossible, something happened to the energy we where storing?" And then the screen flashes to the red orbs. Saiki then says "I see, so it was you after all, from the---" and before he could finish speaking Ash offs him and says "it was risky, but everything paid off".


 * Furthermore, we have that in "the bad ending" Ash breakes the red orbs that store energy, so in "the good ending" having them being half empty is likely Ash doing, this is further supported by what Saiki was telling him before he offed him.
 * For what I remember about reading the story the theft of the 3 sacred treasures + Orochi's power where meant to power up the gate, regardless of them not doing so in the end. Okashira - Imbued with Gold - 17:02, August 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * For what I 've seen in the scenes when I finished the game, here are what they all said:
 * Saiki: You're doing well, but not good enough. Fight Harder! Shout Louder!
 * Botan: Milord, the door! (Saiki looks at the door)
 * Saiki: Why is it closing? What's going on?
 * Botan: It just started- No.. no..(Camera goes to the red orbs) The time spheres!
 * Saiki: hehehe... You are all useless... Or ... Is this your doing?
 * Saiki: Not bad, not bad... I had to adm- (Ash stroke Saiki)
 * Ash: I found my chance. Close call though.
 * Botan: You weren't after the artifacts then!
 * Ash: This is the end of your bloodline. It'll take a while but I'll happe- (Saiki possess Ash)
 * Saiki: Good! Splendid! I can use this body.
 * Botan: Milord! What- eccckkkk!!
 * Saiki: I can still make it! hehehehehe!!!! Haahaha!!
 * That's the pre-final battle scene. There was also no article from any backstory that clearly says anything about the 3 artifacts going to be used, from what I have researched. All that the backstory tells were things like "the mysteries of Ash crimson" and other characters their own theories about Ash and TFTP. Regardless, the artifacts where originally supposed to be anti-Orochi to begin with. There is no evidence so far that states that they can be used for energy source, thus empowering the Ash-TFTP mutual cooperation.
 * We've yet to see from the console version. But until then, this are all the things confirmed.I'll update once something comes up.Coballes19 06:02, August 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * We've yet to see from the console version. But until then, this are all the things confirmed.I'll update once something comes up.Coballes19 06:02, August 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * We've yet to see from the console version. But until then, this are all the things confirmed.I'll update once something comes up.Coballes19 06:02, August 12, 2011 (UTC)