User talk:Kyosei

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 * Archive 1 Archived 01:44, December 18, 2009 (UTC)

Editing Joe Higashi
Hey Kyosei, If you get this message, I just want to ask, may I have permission to edit Joe Higashi, I just want to add new images and put sprites in the right order, you know like a before and after kind, that's all. ThunderBeam707 9:24 December 17,2009 (UTC)

Are you talking about "Terry Painkiller" seriously that guy needs to chill out and plus the age of the character doesn't really matter. ThunderBeam707 4:07 December 18, 2009 (UTC)

Emergency
Kyosei forgive me if I spammed you, but I just made a horrible mistake, I tried make a fan character on my talk page but it went horribly wrong can you please help me?!?!

Thank you and all but I still don't get it.

My Fan Project
Hey I just completed my fan project you can check here if you want,but before you say something about "not seeing them fit in the KOF series", or "not much sense" and yadda, yadda, yadda, and Note: They're not mugen nor from dream matches. And I understand you're an admin and all but there's a time and place for everything and there's nothing wrong about sharing creativity, go and check my project, and just think what I'm saying here and again I am sorry for spamming you, I just wanted a quick responds from you.

Umm..Hello?

Re:My Fan Project
Ok let's get something straight here, first of all you suck at this and what you said was very offense, now let's get to the topic my stories:

Smoke was technically a drop out that why he attended college, and furthermore Smoke is also has an unknown clan that is related to the Sacred Treasures, and how Ash can weld green flames and Smoke can weld blue flames. The reason he hates Kyo because his clan disgraced his clan, the fact that Smoke's clan wanted to capture the mysterious Orochi for themselves for their own greed, The Kusanagi clan spoke against this and this began to turn into an argument. In the fact they went in war, the Kusagnai clan was victorious and as Smoke clan has been shamed some had disappeared and some had committed suicide they were not heard of sense until Smoke was born, and this is his chance to regain his clan's honor.
 * Smoke


 * And how Ash is he's always friendly and I said he hangs with him "sometimes" not the time and his weakness, you were right about that part and I figured it didn't make sense myself so changed to drown.

What you said about Voltaku's true propose is true, but it's best that I have him blame Benimaru for now. And when he'll found out the truth, then he'll go after the agents, It's like the same in X-Men, like Lady Deathstrike falsely accusing Wolverine of killing her father (which he didn't).
 * Voltaku

What you said about Chain is true and you're right, so to Riot of the Blood instead that way i'll make more sense.
 * Chain
 * And so what if Chain uses homicide you would probably say the same thing about Yamazaki, and it doesn't matter what they eat and they  possibly travel all the time, and heck they even serve this kind of fast food in Japan too. And I put the similarly down because I don't wanna confused anyone and put copy rights down.

Im gonna take some of your advice and make some changes, but I'm not gonna take your word for it. Now back to you if you're gonna be brutally honest, I'm gonna be brutally honest now what I'm gonna say may be childish but I'm speaking my mind: You suck at this, and your opinion sucks along with your attitude. (don't take this the wrong way, I'm not trying to make you angry but I was offended by your comment's and apparently you can be a critic at some point.)

Apparently you are right about some stuff, and I forgot to tell you this, but I'll also will be making a similar character for Smoke, a more serious type who's more loyal and cares about his clan and focusing on regaining his family honor, instead of being cocky and violent, but not now and the reason that I didn't tell the whole backstory because I don't wanna tell you over and over again. And you're right about Voltaku being brainwashed, that why I made some changes on his story, Chain is still affected by the riot of the blood and there was a misunderstanding that he mistook Daimon for his master and the riot of the blood kinda activated on it's own and that's the part where he goes crazy, and in his story Chain move to USA, Southtown away from Japan and the fact he already killed his master. Now back to Smoke, Kyo's symbol represents the sun and that he welds normal flames, Iori's symbol represent the crescent moon and that he welds purple flames (which is now stolen by Ash) and Smoke's symbol represents the comet and that he welds blue flames, due to his clan's history he falsely accused Kyo that his clan disgraced his clan (which they didn't they were actually killed by Orochi (which I will not add to the story yet, so just get with the program), and later Ash will tell a tell to Smoke that Kyo has gotten way to far and possibly getting him to weaken Kyo, that way he'll get Kyo's power, kinda like doing him a favor or having him go grocery shopping....for power that is, and the fact Ash used and tricked him, even if Smoke knew the truth, he will still consider Kyo as a rival and soon he will inform Kyo that "If Iori fails to kill him, he'll finish the job himself" and he'll go after Ash for tricking and using him to get to Kyo, and FYI I can't go to my English teacher because I'm on Christmas vacation, but I will wish you a Merry Christmas.

Merry Christmas
Yeah you too and you have a nice Christmas as well.

Don't kill me, please... =3
Hi, there! Long time no see, and it's all my fault. I am extremely sorry for being absent and leaving it all to you guys, but some pretty awkward things were happening in my life and I had to take my leave, at least for the moment. But still, I'm back and want to talk to you about my situation around here. You deserve to be in charge a lot more than I do, that's for sure, but should I stay as an admin?

I also have a few ideas I'd like to talk to you about, but let me just get used to wikia again and we can discuss some more technical stuff. First things first, what is Mr.Kraken to do? :) -- Mr.Kraken 00:48, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Ideas
Oh, sir, thank you for your mercy! *-* Haha, jokes aside, let me tell you what I was thinking for the wiki, tell me what you think about it:
 * New admins - two or three new admins. I think Sake neko is very suitable, what do you think?
 * Why not? Yeah... now I remember that I did ask her and she didn't want to. Oh, now I'm sad... T-T But then again, is there really no one suitable for the job?


 * Different pages for one character - This would be much like Marvel and DC Wiki do with their character pages. We could keep, for example, the Terry Bogard (games) page to the game character, create a Terry Bogard (anime) page specifically for the anime character and a Terry Bogard (movie) page specifically for the movie character, as the three of them are the same character but belong to different universes and have different stories. To tie them all together, the Terry Bogard page would be a disambiguation page. It would be something like this: Spiderman. We could come up with names to each universe, such as Terry Bogard (animeverse). Too silly? XD
 * This would apply only to characters that have been interpreted differently in different media. Take my Terry Bogard example, you know his story in the games; his story in the animes is pretty much the same, but there's also the events of The Motion Picture to speak of; and hell... he is a CIA agent in the KOF movie. That is too different from his original incarnation, and I believe that a different article would be more suitable than adding that info in a random place on his article. Of course, the disambiguation page wouldn't be as big as the one I showed you, because like you said, there isn't many different incarnations of each character, mostly two, three at max. I would like to give special emphasis to each incarnation that a character may have, so the wiki can encompass even more aspects of the SNK Universe. I will work on a article for the anime version of Ryo and put it in my sandbox later, so tell me what you think, then. EDIT: Did it, check it out: User:Mr.Kraken/Sandbox.


 * Fan Fiction - I know that the users can create their fiction on their pages, but I was thinking about opening up the wiki to the fandom, by creating a space where we could post our works and get it rated and commented. This idea is the most abstract that I came up with because I have no clue how this would work, yet. If this were to pass, we have to be careful with what would be posted, so there isn't things like slash fics (shivers >.<) around here. -- Mr.Kraken 19:25, December 26, 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, let's keep it that way. -- Mr.Kraken 14:27, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

Smoke
I did some changes on Smoke, but what is this test and what reason you want me to take it?

Soundtrack articles
Hello, Kyosei. I was thinking about creating articles about the games' soundtracks, OSTs and ASTs. I've done one in my Sandbox, please give it a look. Do you think it's relevant? I also created the infobox template, but I'll delete it if it's not okay with you. -- Mr.Kraken 01:52, December 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I thought the exact same thing about the composers and musicians, but man, it's very hard to find information about the Shinsekai Gakkyoku Zatsugidan, the pre-2000 music group. I'll try to create an article about it. -- Mr.Kraken 11:06, December 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * What I could find about it: . I think it's enough to write an article. -- Mr.Kraken 11:32, December 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * Kill me, I haven't seen the SNK Sound Team article. >.< -- Mr.Kraken 15:50, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

Guess we won't be seeing Mr.Kraken for a while or any time soon, well at least I got a good review from him (unlike somebody I know). -_- --ThunderBeam707 5:54 January 3, 2010 (UTC)

Where's Mr.Kraken? ThunderBeam707 11:08 January 6, 2010 (UTC)

I'm in school again duh. ;P ThunderBeam707 3:28 January 6, 2010 (UTC)

Whatever. And the fact is that you're always here during your free time. ThunderBeam707 3:35 January 6, 2010 (UTC)

World of Warcraft? Please I wouldn't play that game for the world, for all I care, I usually in my free I come here and edit stuff or work on my projects and I always hang at Youtube(with the same user name) and I always play this game and hey you can't blame a guy for being brutally honest like you are. ;P ThunderBeam707 3:52 January 6, 2010 (UTC)

Shrug?
Okay What? Please don't explain to me what the word "shrug" is I already know what it means, but what's you're reply from my comment? ThunderBeam707 4:00 January 6, 2010

Seriously dude you're creeping me out, what are you trying to say?ThunderBeam707 4:23 January 6, 2010

I still don't understand you dude. ThunderBeam707 6:06 January 6, 2010

C'mon, guys...
Hey guys, stop arguing, ok? I've been checking the wiki once or twice a day, I just took some time off from creating the soundtrack articles. I saw Aaron's message yesterday, was gonna reply it, but was too freaking tired and went to sleep. I'm here, and still intend to be for quite some time, so let's put it aside, shall we?

Oooooh, let it be

C'mon, sing along. ^^ Mr.Kraken 14:51, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

Dragon Pills
Kyosei I have one question does Shen Woo actaully have dragon pills or not, just a simple question. ThunderBeam707 6:30 January 9, December (UTC)

Team Story
No,No,No,No, You don't understand these aren't my fan made stories, these are the actual stories from the KOF series. ThunderBeam707 9:23 January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Oh man...This is embarrassing 0///0. I am truly sorry for my mistakes. ThunderBeam707 9:29 January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah..I'm just trying the best I can, I didn't mean to make it look bad. ThunderBeam707 9:33 January 9, 2010 (UTC)

And now I'm finished with Smoke's story, I feel so proud. ^^ ThunderBeam707 7:52 January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Ok iet's get something straight here I told you this once and I'm gonna tell you again, I'm not gonna take your word for it, and you may be right for some things and I'll be making some changes, but first of all I didn't ask you to look at it, I said I'm finished with it,so you need to get your facts straight and I have no plans for the EX versions what-so-ever and I will not take some test or anything else, these are my characters and they're not your concern, and Don't give an explanation about your criticism, if I see another thing about your criticism or advice, I will ignore you. ThunderBeam707 11:48 January 11, 2010 (UTC)

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Leave me alone
Don't get in my way. 11:31 ThunderBeam707 January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Whatever, I don't care, just leave me alone, I don't wanna hear from you!!!! 8:33 ThunderBeam707 January 19, 2010 (UTC)

What's going on?
Hi, there. Man, what is going on between you and ThunderBeam? There's too much hate around here... =( Mr.Kraken 12:27, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

I'm getting really sick of him that's why! >: 11:16 ThunderBeam707 January 20, 2010 (UTC)

Well that's fine with me and this maybe my last comment (although I regret saying this) but I got three word for ya: go to hell! 6:04 ThunderBeam707 January 20, 2010 (UTC)

Internet. Serious business.
If this goes on, one of you will eventually get sick of being in the same wiki as the other and leave. I don't want that, so I'm gonna be quite honest right now with both of you.
 * Kyosei, I know that having ThunderBeam asking you your opinion time and time again about his fiction characters can be a nuisance, but you have to understand that he only wants to have fun. There's no actual need to be completely critic about the characters' imperfections because I do believe he doesn't want anything serious with them. Also, if he wanted your opinion so bad to begin with, it would be at least because he respects you and/or looks up to you, as I do. You could have some patience with that in mind.
 * Thunder, there are some things that you must understand. First of all, people have their lives, their problems, their time and answering you about your characters is simply a kind favor, not a obligation. It can be a bother, and it bothered Kyosei to the point of being somewhat rude with you (but, he also put his time into replying to you, something to be appreciated). Another thing is, you must accept criticism. You have to understand that your characters are not perfect. I know you just want to enjoy writing about them, and that would be the sole reason that you shouldn't have to be so protective to them. They do have flaws, and you must understand that. Kyosei simply showed you those flaws. You must accept the fact that they are there, and work on them if you want a brighter future for your characters in fandom. Another thing, I won't say it trying to offend you and hope you don't take it that way, but saying things like Don't get in my way or Go to hell!!! to someone across the Internet is childish. Think about it for a moment; will it pay off to say those things to someone you don't even know?

I'd like if you two could get along and work together, after all, we have the same goal, right? It's kinda stupid to be playing the mediator across the internet, and I'm pretty sure Sake neko is laughing at us, so let's stop it, ok? =D Mr.Kraken 03:39, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

New images
Kyosei, I think the images in the main page and the logo are a bit outdated, don't you think so? I was thinking about having some cool edited pictures with the name of the category written in each one of them to show the visitor that the pictures link to something. And the logo is rather simple, we can ask someone in the wikia team to help us with it, but I don't know if they can help us with the other images. What do you think? Mr.Kraken 19:57, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

Ash Crimson
Hey I just thought of something, what if it's revealed if Ash is one of the unrevealed sacred treasures, don't answer just yet, just think about it for a a minute. 11:43 ThunderBeam707 January 26, 2010 (UTC)

Returned
Hey I'm back. 11:20 ThunderBeam707 February 5, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the greet, sorry I haven't been here often, cause ya know school, anyway what have you been doing lately? 6:35 ThunderBeam707 February 5, 2010 (UTC)

Reponse
Did you even get my message, I only asked you a simple question, I understand that you're living your life but there's no need to ignore.(I'm just trying to be nice, because I'm willing to get along with you). 11:20 ThunderBeam707 February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Ok I'm just being sure, btw what with this ;p? Are you being sarcastic or something? 11:22 ThunderBeam707 February 9, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Character birthplaces and nationalities
Please stop. Characters' actual birthplaces aren't always mentioned in their backstories. It is only a known fact that Ikki Tachibana, the Asahina Twins, and Kasumi and Natsume from Ninja Master's were actually (and generally) born in Japan. Please do not label their nationalities as unknown. Obscure information about characters, games, and anime (such as pachinko and mobile games excluding Days of Memories) is simply not acceptable. You just have to wait until Wikipedia knows about these characters. 68.205.83.35 13:52, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

'''To say that the powers section "is to describe moves not to give them names" is asinine! All the power moves have names!!! But whatever!?! '''

Re: Cards and image categories
Thank you for explaining the correct process. D3volv3r 12:34, April 3, 2010 (UTC)

Removal of content from Yuki (KOF) article
Hi Kyosei,

I'm new here and have been a big KOF fan for some time now. I noticed some info on Yuki was not accurate, the part about Kyo continuing to keep in touch with Yuki using phone booths scattered around Southtown. So yesterday I made the edit about that part, which you might have noticed already by now. I know that snk wiki strives for accurate and true information, so I thought, 'Maybe I can help with this article'. The information regarding the telephone conversation Kyo has with Benimaru that I had put into that article was 100% true, I really didn't make it up. If you want to see proof of my edit, you can visit the KOF Maximum Impact 2 offficial website. Then click on Kyo Kusanagi's game story, there you will see the entire telephone conversation, where it states Kyo hasn't kept in touch with Yuki at all since his arrival to Southtown. Hope you can help me out Kyosei. Thank you very much for your time. :)
 * As I have no real direct way to contact you via a talk page due to your multi-range ip, I can only hope and assume that you read this response on my own talk page and know that I'm not ignoring you or your contributions. The reason why the Benimaru conversation was erased was here at SNK wiki is because I think it is better to be as concise as possible and summarize rather than directly quoting something (excluding quote pages of course). If the direct quotes one can get from the official websites are short and sweet and get to the point then that's fine. It's when it starts going on a long tangent and doesn't get straight to the meat of what the reader should know. In this case, the conversation with Benimaru has Kyo state that he has tried to contact Yuki but has never gotten to talk to her because it's always her father rather than her picking up the phone. The original summary stated as such. The operative word here is that he "tried" to keep in touch and he does that here. It doesn't state that actually he does get in touch with her at all. So long as that idea is put forth, I see no reason to put the full conversation with Benimaru. Kyosei 02:58, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

Allen O'Neil Jr.
Thanks for cleaning up that article for me. Is there any way to make that animated gif in his character infobox display at the proper size? I don't think there's any offical art to use, and I'd prefer to keep his charcter card in its own section. D3volv3r 01:59, April 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * I figured as much. Best to let it be until a better solution arrises. D3volv3r 04:00, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

Regarding Yuki article
Dear Kyosei,

When you put it that way, I can't help but agree with you :) Thank you very much for replying to my message, I'm truly greatful.

Well, I hope SNK Wiki continues it's great work throughout the years, and I wish you and all members of SNK Wiki the very best!

Regards,

KOF fan =)

Question regarding The King of Fighters XIII article
Hi Kyosei, I just want to ask you a quick question related to The King of Fighters XIII article:

Recently, Two new Desperation move systems were spotted by Laban at the Shoryuken.com forums, and right now, I am trying to help with the wiki and I can put <! -- (without spaces) and -- > (without spaces) tags as warnings on adding information not confirmed yet.

I just want to let you know about the unconfirmed "Neo Max" and "Max Cancel" modes, I am going to put the <! -- and -- > tags as a reminder to editors not to add information on the "Neo Max" and "Max Cancel" modes until they are actually confirmed. I already did this to remind users on not to add the rumored, yet unconfirmed characters (Hwa Jai, Takuma Sakazaki, Vice, K', Kula Diamond, and Maxima) until they are confimed, I also did that to the Russia stage from KOF XII, because it is unconfirmed whether or not it will be in KOF XIII.

I hope you understand, and thank you for reading! --DarkGhostMikel 22:12, April 16, 2010 (UTC)

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thanks

and I was thinking in create another article for Siki

leaving two instead of one

one for "normal"shiki another for shura shiki i know that the two is the same but her personality changes

i want to leave like iori he have one for iori and another for wild iori

can it be?

sorry if my english is "strange" I dont'know talk english 100%

CopySigmaII 00:32, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

that image of leona,not is a fanart,is of artwork of kof MI.

I do not speak good English :D

:D????
sorry for the inconvenience, but I want to ask something a bit silly, its free the Account in snk wiki ??? right?? because really want to help,but I have no money,I m just a student :D

:D

 * thank you so much,arigato XD

:D
ok thank you XD

o.o!!!!!
sorry -___-u forget where I that image,just remember that I thought it was in the official web kof ñ////ñ

Reverting Edits
You might have noticed that I did not revert any article to a previous edit when I fixed the Cards and Sprites section. I did this, primarily, for two reasons:

1) In some, but not all, cases there were subsequent contributions that I did not want to erase by reverting them from their most recent edit.

2) In many cases, I had fixed certain spelling errors and formatting anomalies in those cards and sprites that I had forgotten about or didn't notice the first time.

This is why those corrections took a large portion of my day. I was not simply clicking a button. I was very carefully fixing each article to make the best version available.

Tomorrow, I will be reverting your edits back to their previous version. I hope this will not take as much time as today and I will find time to work on my back catalogue of sprites and such. If I have to revert all those edits every day, it will soon reach a point where I have no time to work on sprites anymore, and I will have to move on to a less demanding hobby. Cheers. D3volv3r 19:56, May 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * Perhaps because I play these games as games and not "interactive art" or whatever nonsense it's called today, I have never thought of character stories as anything other than trivia. I say this because a story is always a tangential element of any game.  While a story is the focus of many games, it is not the game itself.  The game is the system of rules that govern that artificial space.  These rules are expressed, in almost every case, by some visual feedback we call graphics.  It is not a leap to say that what a character does is simply who the character is, as far as games go.  Therefore, the character we call Ralf Jones may have a story both in an out of various games, but that is not who he is.  His sprite from King of Fighters or his card from Card Fighters Clash is quite simply who he is in that game.  It is not the entirety of who he is, but it is very close.


 * Even if we disagree about what a video game character is, that is no reason to exclude a specific element from a character page. I may find character stories to be trivia, but I believe they have as much relevance to a character page as any sprite, card, or illustration.  By contrast, you believe that any reference to what a character actually is - a sprite, a card, a screenshot - is superfluous and can be discard into the safe obscurity of a barely noticeable character gallery.  This I cannot brook.


 * If I really wanted to claim some kind of supremacy on this matter, I would claim that the character pages are bloated with long-winded prose and esoteric narratives; I would mention the disparity in most pages between gigantic walls of text and a handful of images, and would begin chopping up the articles into separate "Character History" pages that few, if anyone, would bother clicking through to read. And then, I would put the Cards and Sprites and Gallery sections on the top of the page where I think they belong.  However, I don't want to do any of that.  I would consider it disrespectful to the contributions you and others made to those sections.  I am not asking you to accommodate my favor, I am telling you the "Separate But Equal" policy you have taken on sprites, cards, etc. is unwarranted and intolerable.  As long as it exists, any contribution to Cards, Sprites, and Gallery sections will always be subordinate to your precious stories, despite whatever kind words you offer. Cheers D3volv3r 06:19, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

The King of Fighters XI
Hey, how are u?

Can I ask a simple question?

Can u tell me who team wins KOF XI (Rival Team with Beth, I presume) and who beat Shion/Magaki?

Because I look for it and never found an official history for it.

Thank you so much


 * Neither the story overview or team stories from XIII have revealed or implied anything about who defeated these two yet. It's probably something that will be explained via the in-game dialogue/story. Kyosei 14:17, May 22, 2010 (UTC)

Orochi Shadows
If this is true that Mature and Vice are back as Shadows then Yashiro, Shermie, Chris,and Goenitz might come back as Shadows themselves in the future. ThunderBeam707 4:38, May 28, 2010 (UTC)

Well there is a possibly but I'm just a simple curious guy. ^^ ThunderBeam707 8:25, May 28, 2010 (UTC)

Chris Alive????
Kyosei, call me crazy but when I saw Chris made a cameo appearance in the London Stage does this mean he's sorta alive or the KOF XIII game is another "Dream Match"? ThunderBeam707 3:39, May 30, 2010 (UTC)

I'm just curious, that's all. 5:41 ThunderBeam707 May 30, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Faces Team
Um...I don't remember or recall any of that stuff at all. 12:52 ThunderBeam707 May 31, 2010 (UTC)

Well I don't, if I just don't remember, then I just don't remember ok? 1:02 ThunderBeam707 May 31, 2010 (UTC)