Talk:The King of Fighters XII

About this new character
Well in the picture to the right you can see that a new character is depicted. He's looking like a masked professional wrestler that led to some people say he's Raiden. Wikipedia says it's him, but the source only speculate the character to be Raiden. It's to be noted that the character has a tattoo on his right shoulders that is not depicted in any of Raiden/Big Bear's appearances and that the design of his mask is different from Raiden's mask. He also wears different gloves. Although SNK displayed its interest in putting Raiden/Big Bear in the King of Fighters series since '94, let's not affirm that the character is indeed Raiden, until it is confirmed by SNK. It's really easy to speculate, since I could speculate that he is a brazilian pro wrestler, since the brazilian flag is by his side or that he is just Tizoc with a different mask... Anyone disagree? - Mr.Kraken 13:03, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * That sounds plausible. I'd love it if it was really Tizoc in Raiden's getup. Imagine all the possibilities have with that one like all the wrestling things they can say about that one ("He was an honorable opponent and thus I don his mask!"). I guess we won't know for sure until TGS really... Sake neko 17:46, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it's Raiden... cool! -- Mr.Kraken 20:35, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I find the lack of new characters disturbing, especially after the rush of at least 5 new characters in every previous game-Vault009Dweller 21:45, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

11/29 Event footage with sound
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm5399835

For anyone who wants it. Sake neko 00:29, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Can't watch it. Aparently, I have to register. - Mr.Kraken 09:53, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 * This one should work but you can't make the video bigger. Click the comment icon bottom right of the video box if you want to turn off the niconico user's comments: http://d.hatena.ne.jp/video/niconico/sm5399835 Sake neko 10:32, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh yeah, there's also these ones from Cyberfanatix. Most of them look the same but it's cut up into different shorter sections: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=Cyberfanatix&view=videos Sake neko 00:05, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Ages
Were the characters' ages retconned? Terry is 24 years old, Athena is 18 years old... Goro is 29 years old! -- Mr.Kraken 11:53, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Nope. For the King of Fighters regulars, they've been those ages since '95 as '96 "froze" their ages for everyone. Raiden was never given a solid year for his birthdate so they made it up for KOF. I've read one news source saying that Ash was actually 17 but he's the only age that I can think of being retconned. Sake neko 14:12, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
 * So, Goro is really still 29? Damn, he looks like he's in his fourties. Also, he looks... big, VERY big. And Joe lost some weight. Any clue about the boss? -- Mr.Kraken 20:43, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty blown away with Goro and Shen being the same age. As for the boss, maybe Rugal? I'd want a '94 Rugal and 2003 Adel tag team personally. :) Sake neko 22:53, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
 * So, the rumors are true, then? The game will be a dream match and will have no story, is that really true? Damn, they didn't even conclude the Ash saga... oh, why, SNK? WHY? Guess we'll have to wait a lot more to see who is behind Those From The Past. Oh, man... - Mr.Kraken 20:38, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, the producer flat out said that there will be no real story for this one. Seems like they're still conceiving it and want to give us a KOF to pass the time. Characters in this game will have some sort of story blurb but they probably won't really count for much in the actual storyline (except for flameless Iori). It's sorta like how Nameless has a little story behind him even if he's a dream match character. I like that they're taking their time to test the waters, but they really are teasing fans too much with this new storyline. :) Sake neko 00:54, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, boy... let's just sit back and wait, then... but I still want to play with brutal, cruel, meat-slashing, little emo, Iori. :D -- Mr.Kraken 01:00, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Yup, I'm with you on that one. :3 Sake neko 01:36, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

AOU 2009

 * http://d.hatena.ne.jp/video/niconico/sm6239327 part 1
 * http://d.hatena.ne.jp/video/niconico/sm6239369 part 2


 * Two Barack Obamas dancing to a song about his cooking. And Leona and Athena doing an upbeat gig with three guys in weird outfits. ...What? :) Sake neko 05:30, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Clark's moveset
There have been location tests. There have, presumably, been editors of this wiki at these location tests. Why do we still have Clark Steel listed as ' probably new moveset?' Presumably someone knows by now. Or has Clark not been playable yet? -06:54, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Just to be clear, none of the editors here have ever been to a loctest. Most of us here most likely live in America or other parts of the world other than Japan. While there maybe Japanese-exclusive info, it's because some of the editors can read Japanese. Almost all the Japanese-exclusive stuff put into the wiki is based purely on second hand info i.e. books, interviews, impressions from people who have actually been there, etc. Secondly, this is a wiki. If you know that is isn't "probably" then just edit it yourself to say as such ;p Kyosei 08:02, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
 * There have been American loketests. Definitely one in Portland, Oregon, probably others. -

199.89.180.65 17:26, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Clark's moveset is NOT new. His moveset is basically his KOF '94-95 moveset with the removal of Gatling Attack [bk(charge), fwd + punch]. --SouthandNorthKorea 09:14, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

Home version
Any reference about the home version and its characters like Mature, K', Angel and Mai Shiranui?
 * OK, I'll contradict myself here's the trailer and I don't know anything about K', Mai nor Angel, but Mature and Elisabeth Blanctorche appear in the game. Cool!
 * I haven't seen anywhere that mentioned Angel being added, so I don't know where that came from. As for K' and Mai, if you notice and read carefully to what is actually written, it only says new artwork for Mai and K' have been made. It did not say they were going to be in the game. If that was the case, they'd be in the list of playable characters and not just a side note. If you go to the official KOF anniversary website or even the company's website, you'll see K' and Mai drawn in the same art style used for KOF XII. That's the only reason it's mentioned really. kyosei 10:40, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

K' and Mai are NOT in this game. --SouthandNorthKorea 09:14, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

The Game
Personally, I enjoyed the game. There is NO storyline. However, Iori does NOT have his flames in this game. Which brings up an interesting point; if its not part of the storyline, why doesn't he have his flames? If you have played (and beaten) King of Fighters XI with the Rival Team (Elisabeth, Duo Lon and Benimaru), you will see Ash had defeated Iori and and took his powers. So if Iori doesn't have his flames because Ash took them, why doesn't Ash use them? --SouthandNorthKorea 09:14, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

Did you ever have to give any of your teachers a status report? That's basically what KOF XII is. "This is how much we've finished for the next game!" This does imply that Mature might not be dead, considering her appearance. Ridureyu 17:55, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

Keep in mind, King of Fighters XII is a "Dream Match" and it has no storyline, therefore, sense and logic would NOT need to play a part in the game. KOF '98 and KOF 2002 were also dream matches without a storyline. However, she makes a background cameo appearance in KOF XI, so she and Vice might still be alive. --SouthandNorthKorea 18:35, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

I'm looking at the fact that Mature's look is updated to include injuries she ostensibly sustained in 1996. That, and with each character taking so much work to resprite, they're not likely to waste effort on non-XIII characters.Ridureyu 01:08, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Are you suggesting one of the injuries is the reason for her eyepatch? I never thought of it but that makes sense! I always thought the eye-patch was some random addition to her design. I agree with you and I think Mature (and Vice) are still alive. --SouthandNorthKorea 03:51, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

That's my guess. She "died" offscreen, she's very popular, and suddenly they give her one of the "our time is valuable" updates, including an eyepatch. It could make for an interesting twist if she has something to do with the new plotline.Ridureyu 20:12, October 18, 2009 (UTC)