Talk:Ash Crimson

Despite having a feminine personality, Ash is a decent character, However he is guilty of stealing the moves of Guile, Remy, and Charlie. ThunderBeam707 12:35, December 12,2009 (UTC)

Especially Remy! They are both from France and they even have a similar with the exact same attacks in that throw. Capcom and SNK keep mimicking each others characters! --SouthandNorthKorea 01:40, December 12, 2009 (UTC)

Well we all can't be originals, now can we?

Maybe. But when the character in question is the freakin' protagonist of the game, it speaks very badly of him. Holothurion 23:42, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

too bad when Ash becomes the final boss in KOF XIII,

SNK doesn't add chizuru's teleport to his ability. He should be the strongest boss of KOF ever made!!

ASH must be stronger than OROCHI because he has green, purple and black flame plus yata's mirror.

I think he's a smart, strong, powerfull character.

Ash Crimson

DOES HE HAVE BRACES!?

He had them in the intro art for KoF XI, and assuming that artwork is canon I would have to say yes. I have not noticed them in later games though, so I suppose it's possible that he's had them removed since then.

source: http://watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20050823/kof08.jpg

Ash's sexuality
As it's been confirmed he's gay by Shane Bettenhausen, an ex employee of SNK and Ignition Entertainment whom got his info straight from Falcoon and the writers himself, I think it's safe to say it should be put into the trivia and not deleted. However, even when shown evidence and references it's been removed. 82.21.57.247 22:26, September 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * Feminine does not equal homosexual. Shane was only an employee of Ignition Entertainment. Ignition Ent. only localized the games, at best all they did was buy the license and rights to release and localize the game in English. They did not actually work on the games themselves. I repeat, Shane was not part of any of the development of creating any of the characters or story. He just helped to localize and distribute the game. His statement seems to reflect a personal opinion rather than any actual developer insight. Kyosei (talk) 11:08, September 18, 2013 (UTC)


 * Shane still had input from the writers, having been the one to put light on Benimaru being straight and Mature being bisexual. Regardless if he was a writer for them or not he still worked around SNK, he'd been in contact with Falcoon and other writers who put light on the sexuality, like he previously did with Benimaru and Mature. If he had any part in the writing or development isn't really the issue it's the fact the people that did have a part in the development of the games had given him the info and he relayed it. 82.21.57.247 22:26, September 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * Nothing in his job description for his position at Ignition even remotely suggested he needed to directly contact the writers for anything regarding story or characters or that he was even intimately involved with the localization/translation which would require such input. Kyosei (talk) 08:05, September 19, 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes, but he still did contact them. He put to rest the Benimaru rumours and stated that Mature was bisexual. Unless Shane was directly lying when he stated he'd spoken to the writers about the sexuality of certain characters I'm inclined to believe him. Regardless, Ash even flirts with males in his dialogue, is that not enough of a clue? He's ambiguous at the very least.82.21.57.247 06:12, September 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * Benimaru's sexuality was addressed by the developers themselves long before Shane asked. I did do a quick Google search for the interviews with him but he only offhandedly mentions the Ash line separate from the actual interview talking about character sexuality. I'd be more inclined to find it believable if Ash's sexuality was mentioned in the same interview that covered other characters rather than a one line zinger at the end of a completely different one. Kyosei (talk) 09:34, September 22, 2013 (UTC)

Do you mean this? Ash Crimson Card which was originally planned to be on Card Fighers Clash 2. Unfortunately, it was scrapped, and therefore non-existent.