User talk:Kyosei

Past discussions archived to...
 * Archive 1 Archived 01:44, December 18, 2009 (UTC)
 * Archive 2 Archived 08:49, June 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * Archive 3 Archived 06:12, July 16, 2012 (UTC)

Pepe
HI, apologies from my bad english! im here to ask about some character design authority correction. Has been a long time since i work as creative in the Evoga entertainment artist team. as part of this, i work as character design/ writing and many other little things about the proyect in the Rage of the dragons game.

Now, must say has been just casuality how i found this awsesome wikia. cause i dont google the Rotd name in a long time :) (maybe 9 years now!) but as soon im here i found some incorrect info about the character "PEPE". since im unable to edit this (and i really dont know much about that) im here to ask about the correction is still posible. Basically the character idea /concept was developed by me (jose luis belmont, mentioned just as "Belmont" in the end game credits) instead mr.Vo as this was displayed wrong on page trivia section ^_^ (he was Jimmy, billy and seo kang designer) so hope there is no problem make the lil change here ;)

by the way i do the Sonia and Lynn Baker full character design too and one of my original characters get a "sepecial appeareance" on the abubo stage (the girl on red jacket ¡yay! there is a lot of me on this game :D)

Thanks and please, feel free to ask anything.

Regards!


 * RE:PEPE


 * thanks for the clarification, just as i had state earlier my understanding about english is not good (using google traslor) regards :)

Uncensored nudity in the Voltage Fighter Gowcaizer anime
I heard that there was a conversation about the uncensored nudity in the Voltage Fighter Gowcaizer anime. This conversation was continued on this page. I came here to talk to you about the uncensored nudity in the Voltage Fighter Gowcaizer anime. Tell me, why was that? 50.89.56.198 16:26, July 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * Basically boiled down to a Christian fundamentalist using circular logic asserting that any kind of nudity is porn, a sin, offensive and psychologically damaging to any and all minors without actually providing any concrete proof and ignoring any actual scientific facts and studies that said otherwise. I'd rather not get into it again because in the end it was basically talking to a brick wall. No matter how much evidence says otherwise, if the other party doesn't want to believe what reality actually says there's no point in continuing trying to have an actual debate with someone who's trying to preach nonsense. Kyosei (talk) 19:43, July 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * If you by chance happen to be that same person or want to try and defend this position but are only going to spout the same bull, I will give the same conditions for a response otherwise it will be ignored as it is only a waste of my time: accepted scientific studies to support your position and concrete evidence. By concrete evidence, this does not mean anecdotal or the hypothetical. Come on now we got nudist communities, you can't ignore them. Or in the case of the porn thing, don't try to redefine an entire genre just because you find something personally offensive and want it included to give it the same restrictions. Nudity =/= porn. Kyosei (talk) 20:31, July 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * In non-hentai anime, nudity is fine as long as female nipples and genitalia are not shown. The Voltage Fighter Gowcaizer anime went far; it depicted female nipples and part of Shaia's genitals. Hentai or not, this anime is suitable ONLY for adults. Parents will surely be offended if they find their children looking at such nudity in the VFG anime. I'll assume that this nudity was left there by mistake. Proof of this is found in any hentai anime DVD box. 50.89.56.198 20:53, July 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * Anyway, pornography is not always necessary to make an +18-rated anime. I recall Street Fighter II: The Animated Movie, the Tekken and Fatal Fury motion pictures, and the Battle Arena Toshinden and Variable Geo OVAs showing female nipples once. That led to those animes being rated +18 even though they're not really hentai. The Nakoruru OVA, which was released only in Japan, showed Nakoruru's nipples repeatedly. That anime got the same exact treatment like those I previously mentioned. Nudity or pornography: any hentai or any other kind of +18-rated anime should at least have one or the other. 50.89.56.198 16:25, July 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * The argument of the debate was never about the rating. The original rating for the actual anime itself does not even suggest it is recommended for minors. Even so ratings only serve as a guideline for parents to decide if they think their child can watch it. There are no hard laws, at least in free thinking countries, that say minors have to be 18 to watch something that highly rated. Don't be ridiculous. The argument was never about the parents and how they felt about it. It is about the minors themselves who experience it. The heart of the original debate is about the effects of nudity on minors. Is it even something to even be concerned about when the nudity in question is not even sexual in context. Scientific studies say no and even say it's harmful to shelter the child as it becomes difficult to have normal, intimate relationships when they become adults. The fact that you assumed that the nudity was left in by mistake speaks volumes of your ignorance of the animation process. The audacity to say that only non-hentai anime should be limited to your version of nudity was also a ridiculous statement with nothing to support why this should even be true when clearly multiple examples have proven not only is this not the case with live action media it's not even true within anime. I was initially ignoring you because you hadn't had anything decent to reply about. But given how you're not even focusing on what the actual debate was about I couldn't help but say something to put you back on track. Kyosei (talk) 22:46, July 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * What I'm mostly talking about is exposed female nipples in non-hentai anime like Voltage Fighter Gowcaizer (the one I'm talking to you about right now). The instances of uncensored nudity in Voltage Fighter Gowcaizer, Street Fighter II: The Animated Movie, the Variable Geo and Nakoruru OVAs, and the Tekken and Fatal Fury motion pictures were sexual in context. Parents should be VERY careful with what kinds of anime they will (not) eligibly let their children watch. If an anime has no official age rating, viewers can never know what kinds of objectionable content will be in it until they watch that whole anime. There can be depictions of blood, gore, and female nipples and/or unisex genitalia, usage of drugs, tobacco, and/or alcohol, and expletives (curse words and/or non-profane insults to people). The anime I previously mentioned in this paragraph were unrated examples. In YouTube, there are unrated TV series and movies which can be viewed ONLY by adult users. A child watching a hentai (offically rated +18) anime would probably the equivalent of a child watching an unrated anime. Parents should make sure that their child is at least 18 years old if they would let him or her watch hentai or unrated anime. What I actually meant to say is that uncensored nudity may emotionally harm viewers under age 18. Naturism is fine with me. 50.89.56.198 22:58, July 20, 2012 (UTC)

Street Fighter 25th Annivesary / Fighting Game Questions
Hey Kyosei! My name is Doug and I'm a member of Wikia's Community Development Team! With Street Fighter's 25th Anniversary approaching, we wanted to do a retrospective of fighting games in general. I'll be jumping around to different fighting game wikis to ask what the admins/community would like to say about their favorite games!

If you could answer these questions: You can submit the answers to these questions either in text, or we'd LOVE to have these answered in a video response. We're hoping to do a video and splice clips of people answering questions, along with some fightin' footage!
 * When did you get first into fighting games? What is your favorite series?
 * Who is your favorite fighting game character, or your main/alternate characters?
 * Any memorable matches you've played and remember?
 * What fighting games mean to you?

You can use these questions, or answer some of your own!

Let me know if you're interested in participating! Thank you and have a great day : D

Doug (profile)•(talk)•(email) 00:13, September 10, 2012 (UTC)

Simea and friends
About my editing of Simea. I simply wanted to add a simple description of the character and a stock picture. Obviously more could be added later, but just seeing the character's name written in red with absolutely no data seemed silly to me; especially when someone might want to look up that character by name alone and find it baffaling that they don't show up in search. Can't that data stay?

Either way, I did the same for the two protagonists of Sengoku. I'm guessing you might wanna erase those. Thank you.

Sabishii Kage (talk) 03:10, September 17, 2012 (UTC)

Yamata Trivia
Is Orochi a Dragon or a Serpent or Human in the Japanese Myths.

hi, sorry for being nosy but I needed to complain about you deletting the Robert Move list I did... In my edition´s notes I said it was a terry copy paste, but that I was to change it soon... it was 3 a.m. when I did that edition... and I was to finish it today, yet thanks to you I'll have to do everything again...

I understand the concept of cleanliness in the Wiki, but I was not to just make the page, let it lwith the copy/paste and walk away... so I humbly suggest you to Check out with the last editor before deletting / undoing their work... personally I only improve mistakes and typos in pages, but never outright delete text crafted hard by others... it'd be a lack of courtesy of my part...

Thank you for nothing...

Alfonso Rodriguez (talk) 05:03, November 27, 2012 (UTC)

Reverted edits
Hello Kyosei. I'm new here but I don't undestand why you have reverted my edits. If you could tell me why I'd be grateful. Weirando (talk) 20:34, December 15, 2012 (UTC)

If I may say, I honestly think that issues like the origin of the characters seen on Amakusa's Stage, specifying what kind of Buddhist statues there are in Wan-fu's Stage or pointing that Gaira Caffeine's final speech is the nembutsu mantra are interesting things not only for me but for other people interested in Japanese culture. Weirando (talk) 23:50, December 15, 2012 (UTC)

Hola, Kyosei!

I don't know if you actually feel justified in ignoring me, or if this is a petty authority complex but let me ask you one more time. Please correct the weight or revert it back to my original edit. Here is a screenshot with the correct stats from SNK:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v103/Sp00nman/silber_zps012dd1b5.jpg

And here is the footage it was taken from incase you'd actually think I'm messing with you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gk2UU_ii-F8

The SNK PLAYMORE page you are using for reference is incorrect, but that is to be expected because they are little more than a pachinko company these days with limited knowledge of the IPs they hold. Hell, they couldn't even spell the guys name right in KOF XI. Please change it back, it's an eyesore.

Thanks.

Xristo702 (talk) 03:27, March 8, 2013 (UTC)

Unreasonable edits
Your judgment about the trivia issues is incongruos and abussive. I don't understand how you got so much authority over here. Furthermore you are sabotaging my contributions for a reason beyond my comprehension.

Weirando (talk) 19:05, December 24, 2012 (UTC)

Team steam
It's bizarre to say that teams, of all things, shouldn't have articles in an SNK database. They're one of the defining elements of KOF. I'd only laid the basic framework, but there's plenty more that can be added, and having team entries ultimately cuts down on copy pasta. SNK has produced a lot of team-specific stories and endings and art and music; incorporating those things into a team's article eliminates the need to duplicate them across those of its members. Case in point...


 * Kim's page says his music in KOF 2000 is Wild Party.
 * Chang's page says his music in KOF 2000 is Wild Party.
 * Choi's page says his music in KOF 2000 is Wild Party.
 * Jhun's page says his music in KOF 2000 is Wild Party.

Folding that into a Team Korea entry not only reduces that redundancy, it's right. The official soundtrack lists Wild Party as Team Korea's music, not the music of any of those characters. Isn't it better to have one correct entry than four wrong ones? SNareyouOK (talk) 02:43, February 2, 2013 (UTC)

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Confusions of Posting Images
Hello, Kyosei! I seem to have a bit of a problem of some sort. I posted three images of official artwork of Hotaru in Neo Geo Battle Coliseum just a few minutes ago. To see if they uploaded correctly, I checked the gallery of new photos on this wiki. There seems to be doubles of the two select portraits. I'm not sure if this is a glitch, or if I posted doubles of the portraits by accident... CrimsonSkylakos (talk) 05:56, July 1, 2013 (UTC)

Wow... I feel like a complete idiot now that you made your point. Thank you for verifying that I didn't make a mistake. CrimsonSkylakos (talk) 19:47, July 1, 2013 (UTC)

Hi there.I'm making Kim's Movelists but I don't know how to type arrows.Is it okay if I type Qcb Hcf types?Acenitro (talk) 15:45, July 30, 2013 (UTC)Acenitro

ok thanks

I heard kof 13 also came for pc.Before the game released on Ps3 and x360.

Those pics you deleted were actually created by SNK.If you have iPhone,download Kof I 2012 and you'll see.

I can give your proof if you want to. (User:Acenitro)

Bonne Jenet
I wanted to know why you reverted my edit on B. Jenet's page. I don't think I made any error.

If you do not provide with a legitimate reason by September 12, I shall bring back my edit.

PSinha (talk) 08:04, September 11, 2013 (UTC)

Admin
Hi there just asking but can you make me admin?Because

1:Brandon said every wiki should have more than 1 or 2 admins.

2:We both are the only users whose editing on this wiki are highest. 19:52 October 26 2013 (UTC)

Acenitro (talk)

The reasons are: 1:I have friends whose edits are lower but they are admin on other wikis. 2:I always wanted to be admin on any wiki.

If it's okay with you.Acenitro 16:46 October 27 2013, 2013

Very well.Acenitro 2:00 October 28 2013 (UTC)

Ok I won't do it next time. Acenitro09:48 October 30 2013 (UTC)

Infobox
Kyosei,I'm trying to make Infobox for Fatal Fury.When I typed Infobox VG it showed Template.So I took my profile Infobox and made this.

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What do you think?Can't make Infobox to right and I don't know how come how come my full profile is showing.Acenitro (Talk) 07:43 08 November 2013(UTC)

Very well. Acenitro (Talk)13:07 November 9 2013 (UTC)

Trying to find game to redirect references to
I saw KOF X Fatal Fury used as a section title within a character gallery, which I assume stands for King of Fighters X Fatal Fury, but I can't seem to locate an article here about this game. Do you know if one exists which I could redirect these to? +Yc 20:04, November 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * Ah okay, was just confused reading Mai_Shiranui/Gallery since the coverage was so extensive. Is Days of Memories normally a more extensive concept? +Yc 21:47, November 21, 2013 (UTC)

In Mai Shiranui's gallery Days of Memories is a subsection of KOFxFF so I had thought there was some kind of DoM game dedicated to KOFxFF, is it mistaken? Should it be listed by itself? +Yc 00:07, November 22, 2013 (UTC)

Hello, Why does it say Nagi is the brother when they're both girls?Leeds90-Rly dude (talk) 23:44, November 22, 2013 (UTC)

Thank you very much for the edit to the Iori page! - Romanicu

Greetings
I'm an admin from the Street Fighter wikia, and I'd like to talk about the possibility of affiliation, if that's alright with you. Lord Grammaticus 03:39, March 6, 2014 (UTC)


 * Right. I figured we may as well consider affiliation, since Street Fighter and SNK have crossed over more than once, and I feel that fighting game wikias should 'stick together' so to speak. Do you agree? Lord Grammaticus 20:31, March 7, 2014 (UTC)

Fighting game footer
Hello, I am an admin of the Virtua Fighter and Dead or Alive wikis. I've created a footer template for fighting games (which you can see here) that you can add to your front page. It works as a type of link exchange-- as you link this wiki to other fighting games, in turn they will link back to you. This way, we can connect all of the fighting games on Wikia.

Would you be interested in including this on the SNK wiki? -Q*terplx (talk) 05:40, April 24, 2014 (UTC)


 * I added SNK to the template, just add   to the front page. -Q*terplx (talk) 07:10, April 24, 2014 (UTC)

You're welcome, Kyosei. Is Natsume's eyes are blue or brown from ADK's Ninja Masters?

Hey Kyosei. Don't forget SNK characters hair and eye colors.

SNK Wiki Help Request
Ah good afternoon, Kyosei! I'm not a normal user here so I dont know how things work as far as editing a page is conserned but I added the correct Alba Meira render to the Alba Meira talk page. When you can would it be possible for you to link to the correct version of the image seen here. rather than the bad variant seen here thanks in advance..

'''What colors are the characters hairs and eyes from Rage of the Dragons in Noise Factory? Arrimas 18:21, May 24, 2014 (UTC)'''

Thank you for many contribution. Please double check on KOF Goro Daimon page... His weight was somehow changed to 115 kg??? and he has average strength??? I don't remember his weight changing in any kof series and beside I think Goro has Superhuman strength since he can throw anyone ignoring characters weight?

SniffIes (talk) 13:47, June 21, 2014 (UTC)SniffIes

Why did you undo my edit on the Kasumi Todoh page?

Reverts of links to official SNK sources in the Vanessa article
Hi - any reason for the removal of links to official SNK info in the Vanessa article?

I put links to pages like her profiles and story prologues she was in in the official KoF anniversary site, along with Youtube links for endings - if you had a problem with the Youtube stuff that's one thing, but so much story info in this wiki is unsourced I figure some references to official sources would be useful to separate that info from fan speculation.

Ideally I would have started doing this with more recurring characters like Geese, but I wonder to help point someone who asked for Vanessa info in a consolidated manner, and figure I'd contribute to the wiki while I was at it. Seeing all that deleted with no explanation was quite discouraging for future similar contributions. IkariLoona (talk) 12:59, July 3, 2014 (UTC)

Ignorance of source material in anime adaptations of video games
Remember when someone asked you why Isato Kaiza's hair was brown in the original video game version of Voltage Fighter Gowcaizer, but was teal in the anime version? Well, there are a few others things I want to talk to you about.

In Fatal Fury: Legend of the Hungry Wolf, Andy Bogard's hair was blue rather than blonde (like it originally was in the game). I don't understand why, but thankfully it was corrected in Fatal Fury 2: The New Battle.

In the Gowcaizer anime, Shaia may have had a shorter ponytail, and her top was skimpier, thus showing more cleavage. Karin had longer hair than she did in the game. Kash Gyustan (AKA Hellstinger) had a completely different hairstyle and, outside of his superhero form, outfit. Sheng-Long and Marion did not appear in the anime, and Randy Riggs had never fought, let alone transform in Captain Atlantis. Did the makers of this anime ever play the original video game?

In the Art of Fighting anime, Ryo Sakazaki had black hair rather than blonde, and his sister Yuri looked completely different from the game. As for Ryuhaku Todoh? ...Well, he never wore his default outfit from the game, that's for sure. Lee Pai Long and Mickey Rogers never made an appearance.

But the worst example of all is Street Fighter II V. Ryu has spiky hair unlike in the game. Ken may have orange hair instead of blonde. Sagat has two eyes rather than one. Fei-Long, Chun-Li and Nash (AKA Charlie) look nothing like their game counterparts at all. Cammy has a high ponytail rather than a low braid. What...were they thinking????? Did they even play a Street Fighter game??? 72.239.165.198 19:10, July 8, 2014 (UTC)

Wikia's Fighting Game Character Bracket Tournament
Hey Kyosei! Doug from Wikia's Community Development Team here! Just wanted to stop by and let you know that we're running an intensive Fighting Game Character Bracket Tournament in celebration of EVO 2014. Combatants include several characters from the most popular fighting game franchises. They'll be duking it out for the next few weeks until only one fighter remains standing!

I'm stopping by to let you know that we created this cool right-rail badge that we would love to see embedded on your mainpage to draw in more votes! (Entirely your choice to do so). Feel free to spread the word through a community announcement or a blog if you so choose! Have a good one! TheBlueRogue •(profile)•(talk)•(doug@wikia-inc.com) 19:44, July 17, 2014 (UTC)

Kim Kaphwan
Why did you remove that trivia section about him and Kim Dragon? RiderJones (talk) 20:08, September 10, 2014 (UTC)

Back from the dead - Rugal style
Greetings, my friend. Long time no see, right? First of all I'd like to apologize for leaving the wiki without any notification. You have adopted it and held it dear, and for that I wholeheartedly thank you, Kyosei! Now, my absence - let's call it "self-imposed exile" - was triggered by my personal life. It's been quite a journey, I tell you - but that can be said for everyone's lives. I won't tell my story, I'm not here for that, but I will say this: I'm back. I'm here to help the wiki grow once again. I know SNK isn't much on the news nowadays, but I still love their games and universe, and hold them in my heart. So boss, what's the order of business? Mr.Kraken (talk) 10:35, December 1, 2014 (UTC)


 * I know how you feel. One thing I wanted to ask you was exactly about that - How is the state of things regarding SNK? I've played KOF XIII only once, so I haven't heard much from the series - or SNK in general - ever since, only that they're releasing games for mobile devices. I've heard a rumor that they are planning an overhaul of KOF for the next game, and that's probably gonna be in 3D, but I haven't stumbled on any confirmation whatsoever. Have you heard anything about it? I like your ideas, and I completely agree with you on the personality sections - that's something I wanted to do as well. I wanted to talk with you about updating the main page. I think it's about time we changed the featured article and the images on the right. It would be cool if we a had a background image as well. Mr.Kraken (talk) 17:38, December 1, 2014 (UTC)


 * I have changed the color scheme of the wiki by removing all the green and using more blue, since SNK seems to have done the same. I changed the pictures in the main page, as well as the featured article. Are you ok with these changes? If not, I'll have them undone. I have also asked the Community Central to develop a background image for us. Let's how that'll work out. Mr.Kraken (talk) 04:32, December 2, 2014 (UTC)


 * The background is only temporary - I don't like it either. It's just there as long as we don't have a background image which would be ideal. Do you want me to change it? What color would be best? I agree on the pictures, as well. I want to create pictures that would have the appropriate descriptions of the links on them, with "Characters" or "Games" written on them. I will work on that, and double check the series in order to bring some diversity. Mr.Kraken (talk) 17:09, December 2, 2014 (UTC)


 * Kyosei, can you take a look at the tentative background the wikia collaborator has made for us? Is it approved or does it need any tweaking? He used the background color I've put after we talked about it, but again the dark blue was as temporary as the bright one - I don't know if I like the background picture with it. I need your opinion here. The picture is in my talk page. Mr.Kraken (talk) 23:29, December 5, 2014 (UTC)


 * Oh, well. I understand your point and apreciate your opinion. There are a lot of backgrounds I find too distracting also - I hate that. But, unfortunately, I guess background images make the wiki "modern-looking", so if that's the trend maybe we should go with it. I guess they give "personality" to the wiki. Similar to you, though, I want one that's simple and that won't distract the reader too much. I've been trying to find a suitable picture, but it's been a difficult task. Mr.Kraken (talk) 01:15, December 6, 2014 (UTC)

KOF '97 Hosts
As for my adding in the tourney page. Yes, what you said is an interesting point and it really IS strange for New Faces Team to be the host of the tournament. But i recently played The King of Fighters Kyo, finally in a more understandable translation than Japanese (Spanish, actually) and it's said various times that the tournament probably was something made by the followers of Orochi. I'm not totally certain of how many followers of Orochi there are, but the games until the moment only give the Hakkesshu as a group of active subordinates. Which leaves us with Chris, yashiro and Shermie as members that are still alive. Therefore, those who follow Orochi were who created the tournament. These are the only available and the most plausible.

Obs: I know KOF Kyo is considered Semi-Canon due to it's ending being completely contradictory with the ending of 97' (Three Sacred Treasures ending), but the events before that ending seem worthy of being considered. What do you think? Vinixdesenho (talk) 17:11, January 26, 2015 (UTC)

Hello Mr. Kyosei can u please tell me why are u doing this with me im not and idiot for making personal informations to characters.I know what i am doing.I have played too many snk games and i know B.Jennet is Rock Howard's love interest.So please give me chance sir.With respect u are my leader and good fellow.ThankYou

If u dont like me sir than guide me.I will follow u.ThankYou sir

Hello Kyosei,if you wondering that what is in my mind.

then dont worry,we are not rivals,we both are like Robert & Ryo,Andy & Terry,Kyo & Iori.

We should make a fellow team of our own.What you say,Friend!.

I didn't go too far, did I?
I hope I didn't overstep any boundries moving Athena back to its other name, since I don't know if the guy who changed it earlier had the authority to do so.

I'm really sorry if I did. Given he had no other contributions other than that and other renaming change it seemed kind of fishy. -- Nakoruru-ruru (talk) 05:25, August 11, 2015 (UTC)

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